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and then maybe we get all of the fiscal cliff stuff taken care of. >> imagine john boehner, president obama and mitch mcconnell and harry reid with their arms around each other swaying to imagine and doing the old, new york, new york kick. >> bret: never know. >> i think they do that at the cocktail parties but will never do it on camera. >> i think the problem is they don't do it at the cocktail parties. >> happy new year, bret. >> bret: happy new year. >> you see in a bit. >> bye have fun. we'll be back with megyn and bill at the top of the hour and i'll be back in just a minute to wrap it up. this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur >> bret: this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier live in washington. you are looking live just outside the ohio clock outside the senate chamber. just getting word from senate majority leader
and then maybe we get all of the fiscal cliff stuff taken care of. >> imagine john boehner, president obama and mitch mcconnell and harry reid with their arms around each other swaying to imagine and doing the old, new york, new york kick. >> bret: never know. >> i think they do that at the cocktail parties but will never do it on camera. >> i think the problem is they don't do it at the cocktail parties. >> happy new year, bret. >> bret: happy new year....
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>>reporter: it depends on what speaker boehner himself supports. if boehner comes to the conference and says i think this is a bad deal, they will vote against it. and he probably will not bring it to the floor. if the not puts out a deal with mcconnell's pleasing that speaker boehner sees as too reasonable to town -- turn down and he says to the members do you not have to vote but i will, he will get a good majority of his leadership team which is more than 120 people, with committee assignments not finalized until after the vote for speaker and he will get enough support if he supports the bill. what he has been saying if it is not something that can be supported by enough republicans he will not bring it to the floor. >>trace: thank you, a.b., happy new year, a.b. >> we expect more details of the fiscal cliff negotiations throughout the day and well keep you posted if we get anymore word from the white house or capitol hill during "studio b" and of course we will have complete coverage as the story develops through the evening right here on fox
>>reporter: it depends on what speaker boehner himself supports. if boehner comes to the conference and says i think this is a bad deal, they will vote against it. and he probably will not bring it to the floor. if the not puts out a deal with mcconnell's pleasing that speaker boehner sees as too reasonable to town -- turn down and he says to the members do you not have to vote but i will, he will get a good majority of his leadership team which is more than 120 people, with committee...
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and he blamed house speaker john boehner. just before christmas, boehner floated his so-called "plan b"-- letting taxes rise on millionaires. but faced with opposition in republican ranks, he pulled it, and sent the house home for the holiday. reid charged today politics explained why the speaker had not yet called the house back. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on a firm financial footing. it's obvious what's going on. he's waiting until january 3 to get reelected to speaker before he gets serious about negotiations. >> warner: a boenhner spokesman shot back, "harry reid should talk less and legislate more." but late today, republican leaders put out word that the house will reconvene on sunday. yesterday, they challenged the senate to take the next step, by extending the bush-era tax cuts for all income groups. in a joint statement, they said, "the house will take... action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate first must act. " president obama returned earl
and he blamed house speaker john boehner. just before christmas, boehner floated his so-called "plan b"-- letting taxes rise on millionaires. but faced with opposition in republican ranks, he pulled it, and sent the house home for the holiday. reid charged today politics explained why the speaker had not yet called the house back. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on a firm financial footing. it's obvious what's going on....
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but i need to say something in support of speaker boehner. he's in a very, very difficult spot, and to a certain extent, given the dynamics of the three-way negotiations or four-way, maybe, both the republicans and the democrats became somewhat irrelevant in this process, and it's really risky what he has done to basically to agree to bring this thing to the floor when so many of his conference don't like it. so, i actually give him credit because i think he's taken a pretty courageous stand, even if he wasn't a very powerful player in negotiating it. >> congressman johnar muth, good to see you. thanks. >> good to see you, chris, thanks. >> up next, the fiscal cliff and you. what the deal struck last night by the senate means for your bottom line. >>> plus, we'll also have the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. she continues to get treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> and then later, coming to a theater near you. the new movies hitting the big screen in 2013. which will be the blockbusters and which wo
but i need to say something in support of speaker boehner. he's in a very, very difficult spot, and to a certain extent, given the dynamics of the three-way negotiations or four-way, maybe, both the republicans and the democrats became somewhat irrelevant in this process, and it's really risky what he has done to basically to agree to bring this thing to the floor when so many of his conference don't like it. so, i actually give him credit because i think he's taken a pretty courageous stand,...
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those who don't like boehner, don't love boehner, they love paul ryan. he was whipping plan b. so paul ryan, probably the most high-profile guy who could be a consensus candidate getz boehner. he's not running against barren. he's not even interesting. >> if the president get this through, and it i know it's a big if -- he has to know goes yags. >> you're always going to have to include john boehner. he's speaker of the house. i think you're making a fair point that the power of house republicans to drive the debate is being underquestioned right now. people are going to look to this experience as to how john bane err may or may not be able to drive this discussion. >> sam, on this kind of deal, there's always last-minute horse trading. things get thrown on the paper and the base finds out and gets upset. what gets him upset when he's trying to get it done by the end of the year. >> the likely thing that will get him peaked would be the tax rates. my guess is that in the process of trying to hammer out this deal it gets raised to somewhere around 400, maybe $500,000. i think th
those who don't like boehner, don't love boehner, they love paul ryan. he was whipping plan b. so paul ryan, probably the most high-profile guy who could be a consensus candidate getz boehner. he's not running against barren. he's not even interesting. >> if the president get this through, and it i know it's a big if -- he has to know goes yags. >> you're always going to have to include john boehner. he's speaker of the house. i think you're making a fair point that the power of...
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could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to see how many democrats are on board and will all of them join in, and how many senate republicans and especially the more conservative members and members up for re-election in 2014 and how many of them would be prepared to go forward, and then that gives boehner more muscle to try to get enough of his republican members to goal along. in the house, they will need house democrats, and they will need republicans. so there is a mechanical part of this. there is a plit will cal arm wrestling part of this, and there is what will unfold over the next 24 hours in how can they reach a deal. sources in both parties are telling me that part of the sticking point right now is where to set the income threshold and what happens to estate taxes. speaker boehner is saying tha
could or could not do and the talks were focused between the president and speaker boehner. when he was unable to get enough votes for his idea to have the income tax threshold be at $1 mi million and when that did not work, he insisted that the senate begin to act. politically that is important, because they want to see how many democrats are on board and will all of them join in, and how many senate republicans and especially the more conservative members and members up for re-election in...
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you know, it's part of what people find endearing about john boehner. you have also got to wonder if it's partly the exhaustion of what he has recently gone through and perhaps the hope that the next two years will go a little bit better for this new congress. >> well, good afternoon, alex. it is true that people often note the emotion that seems to come very easily for speaker john boehner. he will say that he is sort of embarrassed by it and that he can't really control it. the emotion just brings near the surface, and it does come out, because he says he takes all of these things very seriously, the responsibility you can the historic moment, what it means to be, as he says, a regular guy with a big job. so he knows that people make fun of him for that as well. so i think essencetive to it. but getting to know him day to day i it seems to be a very genuine emotion and i think because he has been speaker now for a couple of years, people are more accustomed to seeing it. i thought he was able to hold it in check quite a bit more today. he paused sever
you know, it's part of what people find endearing about john boehner. you have also got to wonder if it's partly the exhaustion of what he has recently gone through and perhaps the hope that the next two years will go a little bit better for this new congress. >> well, good afternoon, alex. it is true that people often note the emotion that seems to come very easily for speaker john boehner. he will say that he is sort of embarrassed by it and that he can't really control it. the emotion...
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house speaker john boehner was at the capitol but left with no comment. the democrats insist the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hike would only fund the government for l days. americans deserve to know what does the president propose we do for the over 357 days of the year. sdmrsz -- >> president omaba insists his plan on the table is fair and includes plenty of cuts to government spending. >> we just afford a wound to our economy. >> if sunday's negotiations don't pan out the president says he's red to -- he's ready to propose his own scaled back bill that would preserve expiring unemployment benefits. >> with the deficit ticking higher -- >> it's disgusting. >> miss ing in all the last minute negotiations is talk of the 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into effect tuesday. >> the fiscal cliff count down is the big topic on this morning's fogs the morning -- face the nation. there's two big visitors. it starts right after this newscast at 8:30 on cbs 5. >>> plastic shopping bags may soon be the fast. >> the final
house speaker john boehner was at the capitol but left with no comment. the democrats insist the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hike would only fund the government for l days. americans deserve to know what does the president propose we do for the over 357 days of the year. sdmrsz -- >> president omaba insists his plan on the table is fair and includes plenty of cuts to government spending. >> we just afford a wound to our economy. >> if sunday's...
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down, boehner/reid couldn't get this done. we had to bring in joe biden to get this done. i'm not sure anybody else wants the job so i think the job is safe for boehner but i don't think this is something that really bodes well for his effectiveness, at least within the party's thought process zip think one of of t -- >> i think one of the win nerwi maria, joe biden. >> i completely agree, wolf. i think joe biden has done a spectacular job of bringing people together, but i will also say this is a win for senator mcconnell because he was part of that team that made this deal come together and he assured that the majority of republicans in the senate were going to support this deal. let's think about that. who knew that in this divided congress that we were going to be able to get a deal on the fiscal cliff where in the senate it was going to pass with the majority of republican support. and mitch mcconnell, my hat goes off to him because i don't think we expected that that was going to be the case. so i think vice president bi
down, boehner/reid couldn't get this done. we had to bring in joe biden to get this done. i'm not sure anybody else wants the job so i think the job is safe for boehner but i don't think this is something that really bodes well for his effectiveness, at least within the party's thought process zip think one of of t -- >> i think one of the win nerwi maria, joe biden. >> i completely agree, wolf. i think joe biden has done a spectacular job of bringing people together, but i will...
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i think boehner is pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> if john boehner is safe at his job, that doesn't seem to be at all relevant. isn't that right? >> i think that's right. but it's in large part because boehner couldn't get his plan through the house. i could only imagine how angry they are because they put him into this bind in which he has to negotiate with harry reid. and then it also gets house democrat support. all the while, he's got an eye when he's up for reelection. house speaker boehner has shown that he's largely, not entirely, but largely. remember, his deputies were both there with him when plan b was introduced. the logical successes aren't actually there. >> paul ryan is not the guy to watch, right? so paul ryan is the guy who has the real support of the house conservatives. a lot of people don't like boehner, they love paul ryan. now ryan, at the final minute, remember, he was with you for plan b. paul ryan, probably the most high profile guy, he's not running against boehner. he's not even interested. >> but robert, if the president gets this through, a
i think boehner is pretty safe because there's not a challenger. >> if john boehner is safe at his job, that doesn't seem to be at all relevant. isn't that right? >> i think that's right. but it's in large part because boehner couldn't get his plan through the house. i could only imagine how angry they are because they put him into this bind in which he has to negotiate with harry reid. and then it also gets house democrat support. all the while, he's got an eye when he's up for...
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if so, can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? if not, what move might the speaker make knowing that time is running out? good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo on this first day of 2013. we've got a deal in the senate and now it's to the house. the republican conference will meet at 1:00 p.m. to strategize their way forward. the democrats in the house will meet at noon to figure out their move. nbc's luke russert joins us now live from capitol hill. he's following it all. luke, we understand that you've confirmed that a very special guest will be present when the democrats meet, when the house democrats meet. who is it going to be? >> that's right. for the first democratic caucus meeting of 2013 they'll hear from none other than vice president joe biden who will come here to capitol hill to brief them about the deal similar to what he did last night for his senate democratic faithful. he was really influential in helping get a lot of democrats to vote for the bill. it is expected he'll do the same thing today when he talks to his ho
if so, can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? if not, what move might the speaker make knowing that time is running out? good morning. i'm mara schiavocampo on this first day of 2013. we've got a deal in the senate and now it's to the house. the republican conference will meet at 1:00 p.m. to strategize their way forward. the democrats in the house will meet at noon to figure out their move. nbc's luke russert joins us now live from capitol hill. he's following it all. luke, we...
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before flying home from hawaii, the president called congressional leaders nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to reach agreements before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: the senate majority leader wants house republicans to return from their vacations to approve a democratic senate plan that extends tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year. >> that's the only option that is viable escape route. >> reporter: but republican leaders say it's up to democrats who control the senate and white house to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: house members will return to capitol hill on sunday and could begin voting that night. they would have about 24 hours to approve a deal. adding to the urgency, treasury secretary timothy g
before flying home from hawaii, the president called congressional leaders nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to reach agreements before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: the senate majority leader wants house republicans to return from their vacations to approve a...
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boehner gets what he wants. the tea party gets what they want which is a no vote. >> sean: you are not happy about it are you? >> i'm not happy at all. the deal we will be hurt, the american people, your children, my grandchildren they are the ones that will pay for this with the is sequestration for their standard of living for the next 20 years and we can't act like this is a victory when it is a defeat. >> sean: if they are playing washington games why are they even there. they weren't elected to play games like this. they were elected to govern. this is frustrating. you know why? then we have the debt ceiling coming up. what excuse will they come up? >> they will not cut spending. harry reid, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, they are not going to cut spending. >> sean: how about the republicans? >> i hope the next time the republicans don't get rolled like they will be rolled the next 48 hours. >> sean: in one sense, joe, i got to give your president a lot of credit. he went out there, went out campaigning. he d
boehner gets what he wants. the tea party gets what they want which is a no vote. >> sean: you are not happy about it are you? >> i'm not happy at all. the deal we will be hurt, the american people, your children, my grandchildren they are the ones that will pay for this with the is sequestration for their standard of living for the next 20 years and we can't act like this is a victory when it is a defeat. >> sean: if they are playing washington games why are they even there....
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reid says it's up to boehner, white house can't get boehner to talk to them. it's kind of a mess, senator schatz. and it is now part of your party. so what is the next move? there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is approaching this meeting here is a statement we were e-mailed by brendan bock. "tomorrow speaker boehner will attend a meeting where he will continue to stress that the house has already passed legislation to avert the entire fiscal cliff and now the senate must act." so that's helpful. senator schatz, i know you probably just checked into the marriott capitol hill or something, but i don't know, you got any ideas? joining us is someone who i hope will have ideas. democratic senator debbie stabenow. senator stabenow, thank you for being with us tonight. >> absolutely, ezra. and i wanted to thank you for
reid says it's up to boehner, white house can't get boehner to talk to them. it's kind of a mess, senator schatz. and it is now part of your party. so what is the next move? there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is approaching this meeting here is...
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>> he took a shot at john boehner on meet the press. presidential leadership trying to get the deal done doesn't take the political shots even when they are easy because you are trying to get the deal done. the big deals don't happen without presidential leadership. this is good politics but it's not good policy. it may be good politics makes bad policy. >> isn't the problem ultimately spending? the busheir raw tax cuts. some say it is going to come. covered it about a week with the budget we have. isn't the problem spending. aren't they identifying what we need to cut, dowling. >> i think it's both. i think it's revenue and spending. rep republicans are low to raise revenue and republicans slow to cut programs. i think the issue is a balanced approach like simpson where you raise ed one-quarter of the revenue you reform medicare and medicaid and you take on the military. if you do that in a balanced way but neither side is talking that way and it leaves us the american people at risk. >> at least the house is doing something. the senat
>> he took a shot at john boehner on meet the press. presidential leadership trying to get the deal done doesn't take the political shots even when they are easy because you are trying to get the deal done. the big deals don't happen without presidential leadership. this is good politics but it's not good policy. it may be good politics makes bad policy. >> isn't the problem ultimately spending? the busheir raw tax cuts. some say it is going to come. covered it about a week with the...
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boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to each other, the white house and boehner. they just don't know how to negotiate with each other. biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but they're not that far apart. and if they get 75 or 80 votes, that's going to mean 30 to 35 republicans. boehner has to put it on the floor. and boehner doesn't have to -- boehner really doesn't have to support the deal, but he does have to put it on the floor, and it will pass. >> michael steele, take it to robert gibbs. and it's great that some of these people can talk to each other, but they still have to go back to those who don't want to play ball, correct? >> that's exactly right. and that's the reality that we've lived wi
boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to each other, the white house and boehner. they just don't know how to negotiate with each other. biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but...
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he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here in the house and it makes it very difficult to negotiate. the president has been talking with the speaker. he made an offer. it was essentially rejected by the speaker. he then comes up with another alternative. it is turned down by the conference that he is supposed to lead. i think all of that has made this a more difficult proposition. i think the president, he has offered cuts in spending essentially it has been very difficult to deal with this republican majority now in the house. and what i am hopeful of in this very, very critical last 48 hours is that the senate will act, they will find c
he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here...
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john boehner is in really tough spot. talk about your thoughts on what he's got to be doing as far as the dance to please members of his party and try to work out a compromise. >> he's probably the person having the worst new year's eve of anybody in washington. he's got to contend with the fact he's going to need some democrats on board. he's got a caucus that doesn't like to go along with him. they don't really trust him think think he's a moderate and part of the establishment. they're looking for him to sell them out. he created more problems for himself by removing a few of those members from their committee assignment. that's part of what prompted their revolt on the plan b bill. it was kind of payback. he's made things worse for himself. it's a tough caucus to start with. many are not worried about a general election. their are worried about the primary. >> we are going to have to leave it there. sorry about that. we're just out of time. if there's a vote we'll bring that to you live. stay tuned to a special editio
john boehner is in really tough spot. talk about your thoughts on what he's got to be doing as far as the dance to please members of his party and try to work out a compromise. >> he's probably the person having the worst new year's eve of anybody in washington. he's got to contend with the fact he's going to need some democrats on board. he's got a caucus that doesn't like to go along with him. they don't really trust him think think he's a moderate and part of the establishment. they're...
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john boehner obviously we know what happened last week. sifting through the wreckage of the plan "b." gone back to plan "a," a bill passed by the congress and extending tax cuts for everyone and sent to the senate. they don't expect the senate to take that. use that as a legislative vehicle and what's today? saturday. new year's eve is -- sorry. today's friday. too much holiday cheer. but come on. i mean -- >> he will be working the weekend. >> reporter: i am. oh my god. i don't want to get started on that. but anyway, you know, there's a lot at stake here. and, you know, it is late for this kind of thing to go on. and really, steve, i know you have been on board for this last several days, as well. most logical thing and perverse logic and chamber politics, any way to look at it is most logical thing is to go over and then come back to vote to cut taxes. but hey, you know, pride goeth before the fall. they could come up with a miraculous recovery. some sort of immaculate deal and may actually spur some conversations on the margins and may
john boehner obviously we know what happened last week. sifting through the wreckage of the plan "b." gone back to plan "a," a bill passed by the congress and extending tax cuts for everyone and sent to the senate. they don't expect the senate to take that. use that as a legislative vehicle and what's today? saturday. new year's eve is -- sorry. today's friday. too much holiday cheer. but come on. i mean -- >> he will be working the weekend. >> reporter: i am. oh...
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speaker boehner also voted i. mike emmanuel mentioned the chairman of the did he have it and debt commission to deal with this did he have it and debt came out with a detailed statement. i'd like to read it here. quote, the deal is a missed opportunity to do something big to reduce our long term fiscal problems but it small step forward in our efforts to reduce the federal deficit following on the one trillion dollar did he have it? spending. both steps advance efforts to put our fiscal house in order neither done, nor -- one nor combination of the two come close to solving problems and loaders must have the courage to reform our tax code and entitlement program such that we put it on a downward path as a percent of the economy. washington missed this magic moment to do something big, recuse the deficit, reform our tax code and fiscal entitlement programs we've known over a year this fiscal cliff is coming. washington politicians set it up. forcing them selfs to deal with our nation's lng term fiscal problems. aft
speaker boehner also voted i. mike emmanuel mentioned the chairman of the did he have it and debt commission to deal with this did he have it and debt came out with a detailed statement. i'd like to read it here. quote, the deal is a missed opportunity to do something big to reduce our long term fiscal problems but it small step forward in our efforts to reduce the federal deficit following on the one trillion dollar did he have it? spending. both steps advance efforts to put our fiscal house...
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john boehner wouldn't talk to us last night. i would say with the fiscal cliff and people in the party talking about spending he thought it was too much to put together but this is always separate. the part of leadership is to be able to distinguish and say this is not something part of ordinary spending. we have always historically stood with other regions. in 2005 within 60 days the congress gave -- excuse me, within ten days we gave $60 billion for katrina and that went over $100 billion. it's now nine weeks and congress has not appropriated one penny to people of new york, new jersey and connecticut. my community, the southern end of it was destroyed, homes are under water. then you go to congressman turner at breezy point. this is devastation. these are people without homes, without food, without shelter, living in trailers and pickup trucks. this is not the united states of america. >> and on that, governors cuomo and christie released a statement saying continued inaction by the house is inexcusable. >> i'm going to put u
john boehner wouldn't talk to us last night. i would say with the fiscal cliff and people in the party talking about spending he thought it was too much to put together but this is always separate. the part of leadership is to be able to distinguish and say this is not something part of ordinary spending. we have always historically stood with other regions. in 2005 within 60 days the congress gave -- excuse me, within ten days we gave $60 billion for katrina and that went over $100 billion....
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according to politico, boehner had strong words for the senate majority leader quote, go f yourself boehner. as he pointed his finger at reid. reid a bit startled replied what are you talking about and boehner then repeated it. go f yourself. they didn't cut the deal. in the end it was vice president biden and the senate majority leader. what does this say about the inability to work together? >> i also like the fact according to that story that boehner then went around bragging to everybody he said that to reid. i think they were both at the bottom of the food chain here of decision makers. they were fighting at the bottom of the chain while mitch mcconnell and joe biden were putting together the deal. i think both boehner and reid in a way were powerless in this decision for obvious reasons. and they -- the white house -- i was told by david plouffe a month ago that he much rather would prefer to work with mcconnell than boehner. mcconnell knows how to play chess, boehner doesn't. >> he got his wish. >> and when i talked to the republican senators they said the same thing about harry reid
according to politico, boehner had strong words for the senate majority leader quote, go f yourself boehner. as he pointed his finger at reid. reid a bit startled replied what are you talking about and boehner then repeated it. go f yourself. they didn't cut the deal. in the end it was vice president biden and the senate majority leader. what does this say about the inability to work together? >> i also like the fact according to that story that boehner then went around bragging to...
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it seemed by putting it on boehner to some degree it feels like harry reid is trying to use boehner to sort of get under mitch mcconnell's skin. do we think that's working? >> you know, really, karen, what you see is what you get here. we're in the am not, are too kind of stage of the school yard fight. seriously. we often see the two leaders square off like this on the floor of the senate. they just have a bigger audience this time and the stakes are exponentially higher than usual, but this is the kind of dysfunction that has led us to this point. what we are likely to see, as luke is reporting, the house come in. they can hardly stay out of town when the nation does go over the cliff. as seems increasingly likely at this point. and what we will undoubtedly see is a last minute flurry of activity, i'm going to go out on a limb, that will amount to a lot of approximates touring and covering of backsides to ensure the other side gets the maximum amount of blame. yes, there will likely be meetings and a flurry of phone calls, but the bottom line and luke has reported quite accurately, t
it seemed by putting it on boehner to some degree it feels like harry reid is trying to use boehner to sort of get under mitch mcconnell's skin. do we think that's working? >> you know, really, karen, what you see is what you get here. we're in the am not, are too kind of stage of the school yard fight. seriously. we often see the two leaders square off like this on the floor of the senate. they just have a bigger audience this time and the stakes are exponentially higher than usual, but...
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that's exactly what speaker boehner is going to have to do tonight. how much credit does the speaker deserve for bringing this to a vote despite opposition from his very own party? >> well, i think it's pathetic that we have stooped so low. because if this last election tells us anything, the american public wants the parties to work together across the aisle. this so-called hastert rule started a few terms ago where the republicans say we're not going to bring a bill to the floor until we have a majority of the republican party, 218 votes. and of course what that does is it creates gridlock, because it has the most extreme legislation. it doesn't have bipartisanship. and it dies in the senate. so i'm hoping that tonight's vote where democrats and republicans will do the right thing, will herald well for the next congress, where people can come across the aisle and work together for the good of this country. that's what we need to do. >> do you expect, congresswoman, for hastert rule then to have -- it's gone. now that he is going across and he is not
that's exactly what speaker boehner is going to have to do tonight. how much credit does the speaker deserve for bringing this to a vote despite opposition from his very own party? >> well, i think it's pathetic that we have stooped so low. because if this last election tells us anything, the american public wants the parties to work together across the aisle. this so-called hastert rule started a few terms ago where the republicans say we're not going to bring a bill to the floor until...
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we're not asking speaker boehner to endorse the president's proposal. we're not asking republicans to say they want to endoris the proposal. we're simply asking for a vote. we believe that republicans and democrats together could get a majority for the president's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff and deal with the deficit in a balanced way. in fact, as we know, republicans like tom cole, a very conservative member from oklahoma, and others have said that that approach makes sense. and yet the speaker refuses to allow a vote on that proposal. and so allow democracy to work and so far unfortunately, speaker boehner has been held captive with the tea party wing of the republicans in the house, which voted down his own proposal just about a week ago, because he said, well, we should ask folks making over $1 million to pay more. his caucus said no. so what we're saying is, let the whole house, democrats and republicans, vote on the president's proposal. let democracy work its will. worst case scenario is that would be defeated. but you don't know until you
we're not asking speaker boehner to endorse the president's proposal. we're not asking republicans to say they want to endoris the proposal. we're simply asking for a vote. we believe that republicans and democrats together could get a majority for the president's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff and deal with the deficit in a balanced way. in fact, as we know, republicans like tom cole, a very conservative member from oklahoma, and others have said that that approach makes sense. and yet the...
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nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, is john boehner's move to reconvene the house a face-saving political move or a genuine effort to reach a deal? text a for political. text b for genuine effort. to 622639. or go to our blog at.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is legendary congressman charlie rangel of new york. congressman, welcome to the show. >> thank you, doctor. >> speaker boehner is finally reconvening the house. but is this just so much posturing? is there anything substan
nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what...
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john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about politics, we're not talking about finances here. they have to go over the cliff. that strengthens boehner's hands because now everybody is paying a hell of a lot more taxes and people are blaming the republicans, and now boehner can go to the caucus and maybe get 200 and a few votes and then with nancy pelosi pick off a few democrats and make some kind of deal. having said that, the best thing for the country is never to come to a deal because ed rendell is right. as a former governor, we don't operate with big deficits. you can't do that and we're in trouble in this country financially. the long term and in the short term, yes, we'll have a recession. it won't be a bad one but it will be one and nobody wants a recession. in the long term i think wall street goes crazy and yo
john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about politics, we're not talking about finances here. they have to go over the cliff. that strengthens boehner's hands because now everybody is paying a hell of a lot more taxes and people are blaming the republicans, and...
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diane: a rich we found out speaker of boehner did vote yes in favor of passing this bill. we have been talking about the politics involved than i wonder figmick cities here to vote yes on this, being that the bush tax cuts technically expire today so this is no longer a tax increase but typically a tax decrease. does that help? rich it really doos and when you look at the policy here, yesterday it would have been a tax increase but the sales job for republicans now is this is a tax cut of nearly $4 trillion over the next decade because at the stroke of midnight the federal government, the tax brackets referred to where they were during the clinton years. that's a broad-based increase with every american paying and increase -- tax the republicans feel they have extended or the 99% of the policy that democrats have derided and the reason we are so deep in debt and deficit is because of the bush tax cuts. they just voted to extend more than 99% of the bush tax cuts and to make them permanent. that is seen as a victory for number of republicans. we were talking to a number of
diane: a rich we found out speaker of boehner did vote yes in favor of passing this bill. we have been talking about the politics involved than i wonder figmick cities here to vote yes on this, being that the bush tax cuts technically expire today so this is no longer a tax increase but typically a tax decrease. does that help? rich it really doos and when you look at the policy here, yesterday it would have been a tax increase but the sales job for republicans now is this is a tax cut of...
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most 6 this should be on boehner's shoulder. his chamber is where tax and spending bills are supposed to emerge. maybe it's because they are working out details and boehner doesn't want to get burned again. >> leigh gallagher from "fortune" magazine, thanks for sticking around, by the way. >> sure. >> harry reid also said he's had his confidence, this is a quote, he's had his confidence destroyed on other occasions so i hope it's not on this occasion, too. a lot of people have had their hopes dashed here, the markets we were just talking about. obviously, people who are looking forward to maybe paying at least the same amount of tax next year. do you think the markets will take some confidence in this or are these kinds of statements just going to lead to more uncertainty and more turmoil when we hit monday? >> i don't know. we're just three, four days away. this is almost becoming like the boy who krild wolf. i think at this point it's not -- i don't want to say it's better to go over the cliff but if we can put a more responsi
most 6 this should be on boehner's shoulder. his chamber is where tax and spending bills are supposed to emerge. maybe it's because they are working out details and boehner doesn't want to get burned again. >> leigh gallagher from "fortune" magazine, thanks for sticking around, by the way. >> sure. >> harry reid also said he's had his confidence, this is a quote, he's had his confidence destroyed on other occasions so i hope it's not on this occasion, too. a lot of...
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will john boehner bring up a boat that as democratic support. >> catherine: where is it john boehner? to bring up a -- about a boa vote -- vote we have been talking about this and does he lost control or lost his way. maybe not? bud john boehner has practically been invisible. >> the only remark he has made is that he if he does not like the idea that would require democratic passage would be the majority. to wondered 18 members of the majority have to do anything before with 280 members of the majority have to do something but the fact of his question that, 218 -- members. of the majority. >> catherine: really quickly, michael lots of a drawl but there could be items that could be retroactive. a loss of -- things that could be retroactive. >> the question is what damage has been done to the of economy and the business decisions. the problem is that businesses are getting ready to shut down and lay off workers. that is the big problem. >> catherine: and two, michael. sliding. right here on kron 4. if you'd like to connect with michael -you can follow >>> scientists who study genetics
will john boehner bring up a boat that as democratic support. >> catherine: where is it john boehner? to bring up a -- about a boa vote -- vote we have been talking about this and does he lost control or lost his way. maybe not? bud john boehner has practically been invisible. >> the only remark he has made is that he if he does not like the idea that would require democratic passage would be the majority. to wondered 18 members of the majority have to do anything before with 280...
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boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time, between senator reid and senator mcconnell, than i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends the vital lifeline of unemployment insurance to 2 million american looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. you guys, i can hear you over there. i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities. as long as thos
boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an...
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earlier reports of this story had it john boehner would be on hand, but john boehner is not even in washington, d.c., and a spokesperson told us they haven't been invited. so figure that out. who will follow as it continues to break but right now a meettng with congressional leaders on the fiscal cliff with the president on hand tomorrow, friday, and we will shirk over that. i put different topic. even if you aren't a frequent flyer, my next guest says you can enjoy the perks of being one. like being upgraded to first class and it is not as hard as you think. now, rick, have waited for this segment for the whole show because i wanted that elite status but i don't fly enough to really earn it. so tell me, how can i get that elite status without doing all the work were spending all the money? >> typically the one bad problem with elite status if you have to fly. you don't have to fly very much. we'll give you an example of how my wife achieved elite status in one trip but typically a big difference between the miles you get on your credit card and bonuses and vendors to those you can use to rede
earlier reports of this story had it john boehner would be on hand, but john boehner is not even in washington, d.c., and a spokesperson told us they haven't been invited. so figure that out. who will follow as it continues to break but right now a meettng with congressional leaders on the fiscal cliff with the president on hand tomorrow, friday, and we will shirk over that. i put different topic. even if you aren't a frequent flyer, my next guest says you can enjoy the perks of being one. like...
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boehner has been embarrassed. he could not get the vote of his own caucus, of his own conference to pass a benign piece of legislation, a piece of legislation that protected everybody up to a million dollars. i don't know how you get more embarrassed than that. now, i hope that these guys can get together, these men and women can get together and do something before january 1st. but i'd check those airplane logs if i were you. if they're really serious, they're going to say you're going to get the final word. >> and i'm creating this dynamic of making it difficult. john boehner was not embarrassed. the house works its will. to try to put it ins terms of being embarrassed, misses the whole point. >> and i remember that well because i had a school feed trip to the national zoo that was canceled because the government shut down. so you've robbed your young kids of access. thanks so much for coming on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> up next, capital cliffhanger. behind the scenes in the fiscal cliff n
boehner has been embarrassed. he could not get the vote of his own caucus, of his own conference to pass a benign piece of legislation, a piece of legislation that protected everybody up to a million dollars. i don't know how you get more embarrassed than that. now, i hope that these guys can get together, these men and women can get together and do something before january 1st. but i'd check those airplane logs if i were you. if they're really serious, they're going to say you're going to get...
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not john boehner. john boehner's allowed himself to be captured by the fellows. he is above and beyond that. i think he's basically trying to do the right thing but he can't get a vote out of his own party for his own legislation. who does he turn to? the president of the united states? more worried about getting a proposition from the president to turn down then what proposition is he talking about? i think the president has been more than willing to compromise and the democrats in the house of representatives. we need 30 votes to get beyond our 190 that we have now. 191 in the house and 218 to pass anything. i think if harry reid does it, fine. let him do it. we need to think of what the country needs more than what each party does and concerned about the election on january 3rd? if nothing happens, he may have to worry about the election, john boehner. what i would advise him to do, he doesn't seek my advice, let me give you some advice. be what you want to be. do what you have to do. and democrats will support you if you do that. >> do you think at this point
not john boehner. john boehner's allowed himself to be captured by the fellows. he is above and beyond that. i think he's basically trying to do the right thing but he can't get a vote out of his own party for his own legislation. who does he turn to? the president of the united states? more worried about getting a proposition from the president to turn down then what proposition is he talking about? i think the president has been more than willing to compromise and the democrats in the house...
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that is why speaker boehner and i try to negotiate a larger agreement. that would put this country on a path to pay down its debt bank also putting americans back to work rebuilding roads and bridges and providing investment the dark areas like investment and job training. unfortunately, there was not enough support or time for that kind of large agreement in a lame duck session of congress. that failure comes with a cost. the mess in nature of the process of the past several weeks has made business more uncertain and consumers less confident. but we are continuing to chip away at this problem. step by step. last year, i signed into law $1.70 trillion in deficit reduction. tonight's agreement for the reduces the deficit by raising billions of dollars in revenue from the wealthiest households in america. there will be more dead as a reduction as congress decides what to do about the automatic spending cuts now delayed for two months. i want to make this point. as i have demonstrated throughout the past several weeks, i am open to compromise. i agree with
that is why speaker boehner and i try to negotiate a larger agreement. that would put this country on a path to pay down its debt bank also putting americans back to work rebuilding roads and bridges and providing investment the dark areas like investment and job training. unfortunately, there was not enough support or time for that kind of large agreement in a lame duck session of congress. that failure comes with a cost. the mess in nature of the process of the past several weeks has made...
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. >> you mentioned speaker boehner. the house as i mentioned adjourned earlier tonight and they will meet again tomorrow, january 1 at noon, 2013. speaker boehner's spokesperson brendon buck earlier tonight said all of this the back and forth this is all vice president biden and senator mcconnell and he said quoting here boehner and mcconnell have not spoken since last week. the staff is being apprised on what they have been working on. we have not been negotiating with any one which is interesting, ed, when you look at the possibility of whatever comes out of the senate if it comes out of the senate tonight and we keep talking about the possibility of this deal, you are right we have to get over the hump that you have to get over the 60 votes necessary to bring the bill to the floor of the senate and then they have to pass it through the senate. and then it goes to the house. now, speaker boehner the real question is here, ed, whether he brings up this piece of legislation. if it he does his own head check in the gop c
. >> you mentioned speaker boehner. the house as i mentioned adjourned earlier tonight and they will meet again tomorrow, january 1 at noon, 2013. speaker boehner's spokesperson brendon buck earlier tonight said all of this the back and forth this is all vice president biden and senator mcconnell and he said quoting here boehner and mcconnell have not spoken since last week. the staff is being apprised on what they have been working on. we have not been negotiating with any one which is...